So every vaccine that you believe in receiving is produced by either Merck, Sanofi, GSK, or Pfizer. Is it correct to call these four companies the "big four" vaccine manufacturers? Yes, that is correct. Johnson & Johnson is attempting to enter the field but is not yet one of the major manufacturers. Have you received any payments from Sanofi or any of its related or predecessor entities? Yes, certainly. In what years did you receive payments? First of all, in the 1990s, I was a medical and scientific director of Sanofi Pasteur, so I was paid by them. Since then, I have been consulting for various manufacturers, biotechs, governments, and nonprofits, essentially for anyone interested in vaccine development, and I have been remunerated by companies, not nonprofits. Is there a year since 1990 that you have not received any kind of payment or remuneration from Sanofi? Probably not. How much did you receive? What would you say is the approximate total amount of payments and remuneration you've received from Sanofi during your lifetime? Oh my god, I have no idea. I'm sure it's a sizable amount of money, but you'd have to ask my wife, who essentially acts as my accountant. Is your wife the person who would have the records to know that amount? Yes, she probably would. Would you say it's more or less than a hundred thousand dollars? Oh, I'm sure it's more than that. Would you say it's more or less than five hundred thousand? Probably yes, over the years I imagine it is. Would you say it's more or less than a million dollars? Well, again, I'm not prepared to answer this question, but I am sure it's a considerable amount of money and over the years it could well be more than a million....